#WeCATS - Tuesday 13th October 2015 8pm (GMT Standard Time) #WeCATS - School-based suicide prevention programmes

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#WeCATS discussions are "Critical Appraisal Twitter Sessions" & are a @UKCochraneCentr @Mental_Elf @CASPUK & @WeNurses collaboration. 


Hello and welcome to our second #WeCATS topic - to find our more about #WeCATS please see our blog "Critical Appraisal CATS ??

It's important to say that you don't have to be a critical appraisal expert to join in #WeCATS but you do have to had read the paper .... The paper we have chosen this time is a Lancet paper on Suicide Prevention that REQUIRES A SHORT REGISTRATION PROCESS, but it is free to read thereafter. 


Suicide and suicide prevention are sensitive topics so if you are affected in any way by this discussion please do seek further support 

If you need help and support now, please call the Samaritans on 08457 9090 90.

Also Alys Cole-King has compiled an excellent 1-page PDF guide to the best language to use when discussing suicide, this is highly recommended pre chat reading. 


So without further ado here is the link to our second #WeCATS paper:


School-based suicide prevention programmes: the SEYLE cluster-randomised, controlled trial (Wasserman, D et al 2015) 







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 #WeCATS transcript

 
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:00
Hello and welcome to tonights #WeCATS Critical Appraisal Twitter Session Please tweet a "hello" if you are joining us :)
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:00
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Nearly time for our chat - jion us and sharpen up your critical appraisal skills! #wecats
@davidcragg
13 October 2015 20:00
RT @AgencyNurse: Highly recommend that any school nurses out their join tonights #WeCATS - paper VERY relevant > http://t.co/xSmlWpNtue @W…
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:00
#weCATS is starting now. Trainer tweeps on line tonight are @sally_crowe @Mental_Elf @SarahChapman30 @DrAlisonHill. @agencynurse in charge!
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:00
@WeNurses Hello, It's André here from the Mental Elf #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:00
@WeNurses Looking forward to chatting with you all tonight #wecats
@esesesse
13 October 2015 20:00
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help & support during the chat Contact @CALL_247 or @121depression Stay safe http://…
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:00
#WeCATS Sally here!
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:00
Sarah here from Cochrane UK #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:01
Tonights paper is from the Lancet > School-based suicide prevention programmes http://t.co/qfD6XVvP5K #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:01
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help & support during the chat Contact @CALL_247 or @121depression Stay safe http://…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:01
RT @AgencyNurse: Highly recommend that any school nurses out their join tonights #WeCATS - paper VERY relevant > http://t.co/xSmlWpNtue @W…
@esesesse
13 October 2015 20:01
RT @WeNurses: Suicide is a sensitive topic so if you are affected in any way by tonights #WeCATS please seek further support - Samaritans >…
@DrAlisonHill
13 October 2015 20:01
#weCATS Alison here too.
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:01
Hello Teresa here ready and raring to go #weCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:01
RT @WeNurses: Suicide is a sensitive topic so if you are affected in any way by tonights #WeCATS please seek further support - Samaritans >…
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:01
#wecats Hello, Tom here, clinical librarian at @BrightonSx_LKS You can’t do critical appraisal without a librarian!
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:01
Hiya #WeCATS I'm running #JargonBin tonight. Give me a shout if there's any difficult language you don't understand http://t.co/W2PS4K2hM9
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:02
Hi all #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:02
@tomroper @BrightonSx_LKS You are right! We need you lovely librarians for critical appraisal and so much more! #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:02
#WeCATS hi Gosia here
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:02
RT @Mental_Elf: Hiya #WeCATS I'm running #JargonBin tonight. Give me a shout if there's any difficult language you don't understand http://…
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:02
RT @tomroper: #wecats Hello, Tom here, clinical librarian at @BrightonSx_LKS You can’t do critical appraisal without a librarian!
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:02
So first question #WeCATS http://t.co/2hY5X4PVKn
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:02
RT @WeNurses: So first question #WeCATS http://t.co/2hY5X4PVKn
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:02
RT @WeNurses: 15 Mins #WeCATS on Suicide Prevention Paper here > http://t.co/iyJw0UQRmo
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:02
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help & support during the chat Contact @CALL_247 or @121depression Stay safe http://…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:02
@Mental_Elf That's ANY difficult language & remember there's no such thing as a stupid question in #WeCATS
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 20:02
Good evening #WeCATS @CALL_247 here to support (KH)
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:03
@CALL_247 Fantastic - thank you #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:03
Fab #WeCATS https://t.co/Yd0XY1wKvW
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:03
RT @tomroper: #wecats Hello, Tom here, clinical librarian at @BrightonSx_LKS You can’t do critical appraisal without a librarian!
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:03
Hi Sarah #WeCATS https://t.co/jSisdkkHkL
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:03
#WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER The focus is usually in the title of the paper or the abstract http://t.co/3Q5GH4cjXh
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:03
RT @CASPUK: #weCATS is starting now. Trainer tweeps on line tonight are @sally_crowe @Mental_Elf @SarahChapman30 @DrAlisonHill. @agencynurs…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:03
RT @CASPUK: #weCATS is starting now. Trainer tweeps on line tonight are @sally_crowe @Mental_Elf @SarahChapman30 @DrAlisonHill. @agencynurs…
@samanthaclare
13 October 2015 20:04
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @tomroper @BrightonSx_LKS You are right! We need you lovely librarians for critical appraisal and so much more! #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:04
@WeNurses *waves*. Who else have we got? All welcome! #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:04
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER The focus is usually in the title of the paper or the abstract http://t.co/3Q5GH4cjXh
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:05
@WeNurses yes i thought it did - "are preventative interventions more effective in reducing new cases of suicide #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:05
#weCATS Have you skim read the paper you caspers?
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:05
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @Mental_Elf That's ANY difficult language & remember there's no such thing as a stupid question in #WeCATS
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:05
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @Mental_Elf That's ANY difficult language & remember there's no such thing as a stupid question in #WeCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:05
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER The focus is usually in the title of the paper or the abstract http://t.co/3Q5GH4cjXh
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:05
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER The focus is usually in the title of the paper or the abstract http://t.co/3Q5GH4cjXh
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:06
Anyone arriving late can get the paper we're appraising tonight from here: http://t.co/YwWcba3VIt #wecats
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:06
Hello Kit Byatt here, physician from Hereford (1st time on this tweetchat!) UK #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:06
RT @Mental_Elf: Anyone arriving late can get the paper we're appraising tonight from here: http://t.co/YwWcba3VIt #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:06
RT @Mental_Elf: Anyone arriving late can get the paper we're appraising tonight from here: http://t.co/YwWcba3VIt #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:06
RT @Mental_Elf: Anyone arriving late can get the paper we're appraising tonight from here: http://t.co/YwWcba3VIt #wecats
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:06
#wecats Q1 Agree. Clearly defined
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:06
lovely to have you join us #WeCATS https://t.co/cuGJ4EszAP
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:06
@Laconic_doc Great to have you join us Kit #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:06
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q1 Agree. Clearly defined
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:06
@Laconic_doc Hi Kit, Great to have you here tonight #wecats
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:06
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses the question was clear and identifiable #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:06
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q1 Agree. Clearly defined
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:07
#weCATS @Laconic_doc welcome Kit and all first timers
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:07
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses It's a good start isn't it?! We like clear questions #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:07
#WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER There's a bit of extra detail about the trial interventions in the abstract http://t.co/v1p5YTgriU
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:07
@matthewvanloo @WeNurses yes it practically leapt out at me #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:07
RT @Laconic_doc: Hello Kit Byatt here, physician from Hereford (1st time on this tweetchat!) UK #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:07
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses It's a good start isn't it?! We like clear questions #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:07
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses It's a good start isn't it?! We like clear questions #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:07
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER There's a bit of extra detail about the trial interventions in the abstract http://t.co/v1p5YTgriU
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:07
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER There's a bit of extra detail about the trial interventions in the abstract http://t.co/v1p5YTgriU
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:08
@AgencyNurse @matthewvanloo @WeNurses This is what we like! #wecats
@iansambrook23
13 October 2015 20:08
RT @WeNurses: Hi Sarah #WeCATS https://t.co/jSisdkkHkL
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:08
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER There's a bit of extra detail about the trial interventions in the abstract http://t.co/v1p5YTgriU
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:08
@UKCochraneCentr @AgencyNurse @WeNurses nothing worse than scratching your head thinking what are you wanting to do? #WeCATS
@iansambrook23
13 October 2015 20:08
RT @CASPUK: #weCATS is starting now. Trainer tweeps on line tonight are @sally_crowe @Mental_Elf @SarahChapman30 @DrAlisonHill. @agencynurs…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:08
@UKCochraneCentr @matthewvanloo @WeNurses yes infact i much preferred this paper to the last #WeCATS
@LindenLyn
13 October 2015 20:08
RT @Mental_Elf: Anyone arriving late can get the paper we're appraising tonight from here: http://t.co/YwWcba3VIt #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:08
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 1 ANSWER The focus is usually in the title of the paper or the abstract http://t.co/3Q5GH4cjXh
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:09
@AgencyNurse @UKCochraneCentr @matthewvanloo @WeNurses Thumbs up for a clear question we can spot easily! #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:09
Question 2 #WeCATS > http://t.co/hOW9EEVfHR
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:09
RT @WeNurses: Question 2 #WeCATS > http://t.co/hOW9EEVfHR
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:10
#WeCATS Q1 clearly identified right at the beginning
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:10
#WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@calebferg
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Nearly time for our chat - jion us and sharpen up your critical appraisal skills! #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @AgencyNurse: @matthewvanloo @WeNurses yes it practically leapt out at me #WeCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:10
absolutely ! #WeCATS https://t.co/EQgUS9e10m
@MrsDrSarah
13 October 2015 20:10
#ASEChat and #sciteachJC folks might be interested in #wecats tonight - critically appraising paper related to teen mental health.
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@calebferg
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @WeSchoolNurses: Tonight at 8pm #WeCATS are discussing a paper around suicide prevention in schools > https://t.co/kURK4GX5u3
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:10
#wecats So if we think it is a clearly focused question shall we move on to the design of the study?
@iansambrook23
13 October 2015 20:10
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @Mental_Elf That's ANY difficult language & remember there's no such thing as a stupid question in #WeCATS
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:10
Yes lots agreeing on this #WeCATS https://t.co/j334W3vDI0
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:11
RT @CASPUK: #wecats So if we think it is a clearly focused question shall we move on to the design of the study?
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:11
RT @WeNurses: Yes lots agreeing on this #WeCATS https://t.co/j334W3vDI0
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:11
RT @CASPUK: #wecats So if we think it is a clearly focused question shall we move on to the design of the study?
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:11
RT @CASPUK: #wecats So if we think it is a clearly focused question shall we move on to the design of the study?
@MrsDrSarah
13 October 2015 20:11
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:11
RT @MrsDrSarah: #ASEChat and #sciteachJC folks might be interested in #wecats tonight - critically appraising paper related to teen mental …
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:11
@CASPUK there were bits i liked and bits i didn't #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:12
#WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER This sentence at the beginning of the Methods helps http://t.co/WLyAFnEUjj
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:12
#wecats Q2 Yes, an RCT best way to assess an intervention like this. Did worry a little about ethics, but they seem to have it covered
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:12
@CASPUK was worried re the questionairres and whether esp with teenagers if this was accurate way to get info #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:13
#wecats What was your ethics worry Tom? @tomroper
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:13
@CASPUK however seemed a big study and they looked at three different programs and had a control group #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:13
We get a bit about the study design very early #WeCATS http://t.co/Rz5dNWkNxC
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:13
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help & support during the chat Contact @CALL_247 or @121depression Stay safe http://…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:13
@CASPUK also liked that teaching teams were trained and monitored #WeCATS
@nursescott2
13 October 2015 20:13
@WeNurses #WeCATS just watching today. seeing how the #WeCATS chat works.
@locstitches
13 October 2015 20:14
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help & support during the chat Contact @CALL_247 or @121depression Stay safe http://…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:14
@scottcolton2 @WeNurses Hi, you're welcome! #wecats
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 20:14
@AgencyNurse @CASPUK agree w this - especially given the school-based part -- don't want teachers to know etc #weCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:14
Ooh missed that bit though lol #WeCATS https://t.co/89sniyj9tq
@nursescott2
13 October 2015 20:14
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @scottcolton2 @WeNurses Hi, you're welcome! #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:14
@scottcolton2 #wecats good to see you.
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:14
Lurk away Scott #WeCATS https://t.co/R6nfZAou2b
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:15
#WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:15
@AgencyNurse Highlighter pens essential I feel! #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:15
#WeCATS had similar thoughts re ethics; agree on the design https://t.co/9A0F8F4syU
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:15
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER This sentence at the beginning of the Methods helps http://t.co/WLyAFnEUjj
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:15
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q2 Yes, an RCT best way to assess an intervention like this. Did worry a little about ethics, but they seem to have i…
@KatsuyamaSarah
13 October 2015 20:15
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @Mental_Elf That's ANY difficult language & remember there's no such thing as a stupid question in #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:15
. @agencynurse also liked that teaching teams were trained and monitored #WeCATS good sign that treatment & control groups treated the same.
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:15
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q2 Yes, an RCT best way to assess an intervention like this. Did worry a little about ethics, but they seem to have i…
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:16
@tomroper good to see they gained ethical approval from each countries REC and that they had an emergency plan for suicide attempt #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:16
RT @CASPUK: . @agencynurse also liked that teaching teams were trained and monitored #WeCATS good sign that treatment & control groups trea…
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:16
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@nursescott2
13 October 2015 20:16
@121depression Thanks! Interesting that @WeNurses #WeCATS. have nursed a number of patients with suicidal thoughts and attempts.
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:16
RT @WeNurses: Yes lots agreeing on this #WeCATS https://t.co/j334W3vDI0
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:16
RT @CASPUK: #wecats So if we think it is a clearly focused question shall we move on to the design of the study?
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:16
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS We've highlighted the summary which gives a really nice two sentences about the whole study http://t.co/Gy8CIRfAEn
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:16
Yes important point - wonder how the teenagers were helped to feel safe when answering #WeCATs https://t.co/2HEYpc2SEX
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:16
@matthewvanloo Indeed. #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:17
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:17
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:17
RT @MrsDrSarah: #ASEChat and #sciteachJC folks might be interested in #wecats tonight - critically appraising paper related to teen mental …
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:17
a gosh yes ! #WeCATS https://t.co/xMV5D1CqbP
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:17
@WeNurses Hello! Joined in tweetchat last night #Wmhns in Care Plans. Tonight following #WeCats to help develop CA skills!
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:17
@AgencyNurse That's an important consideration isn't it? #wecats
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:17
@AgencyNurse @CASPUK I'm unsure if looking at 10 countries was good or bad would they miss cultural differences #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:17
@tadhg50 @WeNurses Fab - great to have you with us! #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:17
RT @CASPUK: . @agencynurse also liked that teaching teams were trained and monitored #WeCATS good sign that treatment & control groups trea…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:17
RT @CASPUK: . @agencynurse also liked that teaching teams were trained and monitored #WeCATS good sign that treatment & control groups trea…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:17
RT @matthewvanloo: @AgencyNurse @CASPUK I'm unsure if looking at 10 countries was good or bad would they miss cultural differences #WeCATS
@spsararoberts
13 October 2015 20:17
Late arrival -I have just discovered #WeCATS so haven't read the paper. Interested in the topic and the process so I'm keen to observe.
@morrisKOT
13 October 2015 20:18
RT @Mental_Elf: Hiya #WeCATS I'm running #JargonBin tonight. Give me a shout if there's any difficult language you don't understand http://…
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:18
@tadhg50 @WeNurses Wotcha! #ElfWave #wecats
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:18
Where are the questions (Q1, Q2, etc) being asked - is there a link? #wecats
@PUNC14mickyr
13 October 2015 20:18
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:18
@spsararoberts Welcome! #wecats
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 20:18
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:18
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @CASPUK Something that needs to be born in mind when considering whether the results are generalizable #wecats
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 20:18
#WeCATS So important to give #youngpeople time to talk & to listen with respect & give #dignity. If affected in Wales CALL 0800 132737 (KH)
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:18
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:18
RT @CALL_247: #WeCATS So important to give #youngpeople time to talk & to listen with respect & give #dignity. If affected in Wales CALL 08…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:18
@UKCochraneCentr i think so otherwise the teens may have just put what they felt wouldnt get them into trouble #weCATS
@luybenans
13 October 2015 20:19
RT @Mental_Elf: Hiya #WeCATS I'm running #JargonBin tonight. Give me a shout if there's any difficult language you don't understand http://…
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:19
"@UKCochraneCentr: @WeNurses @AlysColeKing This is excellent - so helpful. #wecats"hello! Sorry so late but hope can join chat for a while
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:19
Lovely to have you pop in #WeCATS https://t.co/0uNqgw1rCo
@iahcp
13 October 2015 20:19
RT @WeNurses: Lovely to have you pop in #WeCATS https://t.co/0uNqgw1rCo
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:20
#WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER The authors explain how they do the randomisation http://t.co/Nc1a4dOH0N
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:20
Question 3 is here #WeCATS http://t.co/wgetauaBmm
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:21
@AlysColeKing @UKCochraneCentr @WeNurses Great to have you dropping in! :-) #wecats
@angelabinkee2
13 October 2015 20:21
RT @AgencyNurse: Yes important point - wonder how the teenagers were helped to feel safe when answering #WeCATs https://t.co/2HEYpc2SEX
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:21
#wecats A2 So randomization described well and everyone seems to be in agreement on that
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:21
RT @WeNurses: Question 3 is here #WeCATS http://t.co/wgetauaBmm
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:21
we are tweeting them via pictures - heres Q3 now @Laconic_doc #WeCATS > http://t.co/1hZjymrqlB
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:21
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER The authors explain how they do the randomisation http://t.co/Nc1a4dOH0N
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:21
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER The authors explain how they do the randomisation http://t.co/Nc1a4dOH0N
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:21
RT @WeNurses: Lovely to have you pop in #WeCATS https://t.co/0uNqgw1rCo
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:21
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER The authors explain how they do the randomisation http://t.co/Nc1a4dOH0N
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @AlysColeKing: "@UKCochraneCentr: @WeNurses @AlysColeKing This is excellent - so helpful. #wecats"hello! Sorry so late but hope can joi…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:22
@Laconic_doc Chat questions: http://t.co/MsjcxNHEZv #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @Mental_Elf: Hiya #WeCATS I'm running #JargonBin tonight. Give me a shout if there's any difficult language you don't understand http://…
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:22
#wecats Q3 Yes, the study profile shows this at school and pupil level. I didn’t check the figures though :-(
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:22
#WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here's what we mean by 'follow up' http://t.co/dy8lcf8ACq
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 2 ANSWER The authors explain how they do the randomisation http://t.co/Nc1a4dOH0N
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @CALL_247: #WeCATS So important to give #youngpeople time to talk & to listen with respect & give #dignity. If affected in Wales CALL 08…
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:22
Q3 study profile on p 1539 gives a complete account of all participants #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:22
@AlysColeKing @UKCochraneCentr @WeNurses Great to have you here! #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:22
Yes felt this was quite comprehensive and also gave me a greater understanding of the process #weCATS https://t.co/WlrwYujyye
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @Laconic_doc: Q3 study profile on p 1539 gives a complete account of all participants #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @CASPUK: #wecats A2 So randomization described well and everyone seems to be in agreement on that
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @CASPUK: #wecats A2 So randomization described well and everyone seems to be in agreement on that
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:22
Thx! RT @UKCochraneCentr: @Laconic_doc Chat questions: http://t.co/B089UwUmnZ #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:22
RT @WeNurses: Question 3 is here #WeCATS http://t.co/wgetauaBmm
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:23
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q3 Yes, the study profile shows this at school and pupil level. I didn’t check the figures though :-(
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:23
@CALL_247 agree. Lots of help also http://t.co/imkXuLEdvK http://t.co/czPEQY3dFg #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:23
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q3 Yes, the study profile shows this at school and pupil level. I didn’t check the figures though :-(
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:23
RT @CALL_247: #WeCATS So important to give #youngpeople time to talk & to listen with respect & give #dignity. If affected in Wales CALL 08…
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:23
#WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here are the numbers. When you get time, it is good to see if the figures all add up! http://t.co/31RnNfgpJq
@davidcragg
13 October 2015 20:23
Q3 so important to ask when reading papers "Are the participants in the study all accounted for? Did any drop out & do we know why?" #wecats
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:23
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:23
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here's what we mean by 'follow up' http://t.co/dy8lcf8ACq
@GarySlegg
13 October 2015 20:24
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:24
#WeCATS A3 It's always good to look out for a flow diagram in the paper to show the flow of participants through the study, esp the dropouts
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:24
@WeNurses clear study profile, quite a few drop outs/exclusions/loss to follow up, but you would expect that with this type of study #WeCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:25
Q3 #WeCATS Started with 1110 at 3m 9798 at 12m 8972 ...says drop outs due to school absenteeism #WeCATS Not sure if this is good or bad!
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:25
Again with the hashtag! #WeCATS http://t.co/7uzItVgDUG
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:25
Thank you - that clear up my worry, wasnt sure if drop out rate was normal or not ! #wecats https://t.co/NsgCjFs2nn
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Again with the hashtag! #WeCATS http://t.co/7uzItVgDUG
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Again with the hashtag! #WeCATS http://t.co/7uzItVgDUG
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:26
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @CASPUK multicultural society could make the results questionable don't you think??? #WeCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS A3 It's always good to look out for a flow diagram in the paper to show the flow of participants through the study, esp…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS A3 It's always good to look out for a flow diagram in the paper to show the flow of participants through the study, esp…
@JohnBaker_Leeds
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here are the numbers. When you get time, it is good to see if the figures all add up! http://t.co/31R…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:26
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here are the numbers. When you get time, it is good to see if the figures all add up! http://t.co/31R…
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:26
@UKCochraneCentr @Mental_Elf @WeNurses Thanks! Imp not to forget that in suicide prev research behind every statistic is a person #WeCATS
@MrsDrSarah
13 October 2015 20:26
@AgencyNurse Are children at greater risk of mental health problems more likely to be absent? #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:26
#wecats A3 worried about absenteeism? this will occur across all groups, so not likely to bias the study?
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:27
Loss to follow-up. Here's some help with that #JARGONBIN #WeCATS http://t.co/sKVTVRdw0c
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:27
oooh interesting point ! hadnt thought of that #WeCATS https://t.co/tBGJUhJMcT
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 20:27
RT @Mental_Elf: Hiya #WeCATS I'm running #JargonBin tonight. Give me a shout if there's any difficult language you don't understand http://…
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:27
Q3 it's important to see if dropout rate varies between groups (could indicate bias[es]) #wecats
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:27
@MrsDrSarah @AgencyNurse Very good point #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:27
#wecats @AlysColeKing Essential, do you think this comes across in the paper?
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:28
Another really interesting point .... quite possibly #WeCATS https://t.co/PIfLwK7sGR
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:28
RT @Laconic_doc: Q3 it's important to see if dropout rate varies between groups (could indicate bias[es]) #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:28
RT @Laconic_doc: Q3 it's important to see if dropout rate varies between groups (could indicate bias[es]) #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:28
RT @Laconic_doc: Q3 it's important to see if dropout rate varies between groups (could indicate bias[es]) #wecats
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:28
@tadhg50 @WeNurses self reporting questionnaire as data collection tool, one day at 3 and 12 months to collect data #WeCATS
@welshlittleone
13 October 2015 20:29
RT @CALL_247: #WeCATS So important to give #youngpeople time to talk & to listen with respect & give #dignity. If affected in Wales CALL 08…
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:29
@scottcolton2 sadly something we also have experience in. #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:29
Really important point #WeCATS https://t.co/F21zR14Lj1
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:29
@gosia_bal @AgencyNurse @CASPUK would want to see on results/discussion if this has been accounted for #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:29
#wecats A3 @Laconic_doc good point! Flow charts help you see this more easily.
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:29
I wondered if there were different biases from diff cultural (eg religious) effects in diff countries. Not explicitly controlled for #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:30
@CASPUK @AlysColeKing i think that they were quite person centric in their approaches and had a plan to act if needed #WeCATS
@AM_Knight_RD
13 October 2015 20:30
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS 8pm Let's get critical, critical I wanna get critical Appraise it unequivocal Read the paper? Now let's talk! http:…
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 20:30
@CASPUK @AlysColeKing i'm not sure if it does.. very difficult to make it that way when such vast number of PPs though #weCATS
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:30
#WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:30
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS 8pm Let's get critical, critical I wanna get critical Appraise it unequivocal Read the paper? Now let's talk! http:…
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:30
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS A3 It's always good to look out for a flow diagram in the paper to show the flow of participants through the study, esp…
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:30
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Again with the hashtag! #WeCATS http://t.co/7uzItVgDUG
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:30
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here are the numbers. When you get time, it is good to see if the figures all add up! http://t.co/31R…
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:30
RT @Laconic_doc: Q3 it's important to see if dropout rate varies between groups (could indicate bias[es]) #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:30
A really good point - what do others think #WeCATS https://t.co/40YZrto8bL
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:31
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here are the numbers. When you get time, it is good to see if the figures all add up! http://t.co/31R…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:31
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:31
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:31
RT @WeNurses: A really good point - what do others think #WeCATS https://t.co/40YZrto8bL
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 20:31
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:32
@WeNurses This could be an important source of bias couldn't it? Could affect the results #wecats
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 20:32
#WeCATS mental health training in schools & youth svices help us look after #youngpeople. CALL support & signpost in Wales 0800 132737 (KH)
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:32
#WECATS QUESTION 4 > http://t.co/wiTZGdQ03M
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:32
@CASPUK possibly all papers could refer to this more as death by suicide like no other. Not convinced? See #aftersuicide literature #WeCATS
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:32
RT @AgencyNurse: Really important point #WeCATS https://t.co/F21zR14Lj1
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:33
Thanks for reminding us! Those are young vulnerable people/children really only 15 years old #wecats https://t.co/LDNlDaR1eK
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:33
Gosh half way through our chat. How are you all doing? #wecats
@JULEIGH99
13 October 2015 20:33
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:33
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:33
Not too bad - less stressed than last time - but know the last two questions are a bit harder #WeCATS https://t.co/wjAiPzIcCx
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:34
#wecats @laconic_doc A3 regarding cultural differences in suicidal behaviour how could this be controlled for?
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:34
RT @WeNurses: #WECATS QUESTION 4 > http://t.co/wiTZGdQ03M
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:34
@CASPUK Think this paper was comprehensive and safety well considered+ this was well expressed. Its very important research #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:34
@AgencyNurse Yes - it gets harder but we're all in it together tonight! #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:34
RT @gosia_bal: Thanks for reminding us! Those are young vulnerable people/children really only 15 years old #wecats https://t.co/LDNlDaR1…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:34
RT @CASPUK: #wecats @laconic_doc A3 regarding cultural differences in suicidal behaviour how could this be controlled for?
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:34
RT @CASPUK: #wecats @laconic_doc A3 regarding cultural differences in suicidal behaviour how could this be controlled for?
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:34
#WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Here are the study results in words, showing statistical significance http://t.co/O2O21CrAia
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:34
RT @AgencyNurse: Really important point #WeCATS https://t.co/F21zR14Lj1
@AmyC154
13 October 2015 20:35
@WeNurses hello #weCATS I was in the supermarket so will catch up tomorrow I think! Really looking forward to it!! X
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:35
RT @WeNurses: #WECATS QUESTION 4 > http://t.co/wiTZGdQ03M
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:35
#wecats Q4 Only one statistically significant results: YAM superior at 12 months
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:35
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Here are the study results in words, showing statistical significance http://t.co/O2O21CrAia
@WeNursesToo
13 October 2015 20:35
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Here are the study results in words, showing statistical significance http://t.co/O2O21CrAia
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:35
@AlysColeKing @CASPUK It's good when we see research well conducted and reported. Too much research is wasted... #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:35
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q4 Only one statistically significant results: YAM superior at 12 months
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:35
RT @tomroper: #wecats Q4 Only one statistically significant results: YAM superior at 12 months
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:35
#WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Study findings from the abstract. This is where you'd normally look for headline results http://t.co/GUjU7RB094
@MrsDrSarah
13 October 2015 20:35
@UKCochraneCentr I've got to go and mark some 15-yr olds work - is there going to be a storify/summary? #WeCATS #teacherlife
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:35
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Here are the study results in words, showing statistical significance http://t.co/O2O21CrAia
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:36
@WeNurses @Laconic_doc can we actually control those factors ever???#WeCATS
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:36
@MrsDrSarah @UKCochraneCentr #wecats yes there will be
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:36
@CASPUK Important to distinguish statistical significance from clinical significance. #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:37
YAM had a large reduction in suicide attempts 50% more than control #WeCATS
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:37
1/2 control for country RT @CASPUK: #wecats @laconic_doc A3 re cultural differences in suicidal behaviour how could this be controlled for?
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:37
2/2 statistically RT @CASPUK: #wecats @laconic_doc A3 regarding cultural differences in suicidal behaviour how could this be controlled for?
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:37
RT @gosia_bal: Thanks for reminding us! Those are young vulnerable people/children really only 15 years old #wecats https://t.co/LDNlDaR1…
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:37
#wecats Q4 What is more important? Statistical significance or clinical significance?
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:38
@UKCochraneCentr thanks for asking; my first ever chat; great??fast!!!#wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:38
@sally_crowe @MrsDrSarah @UKCochraneCentr On #WeCommunities and @CASP_UK sites Sally? #wecats
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 20:38
#WeCATS @gosia_bal agreed. #youngpeople can sometimes find it hard to express distress with words. Patience & the right questions! (KH)
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:38
@CASPUK Silly question time-OR and CI! Brief explanation pls. #WeCATS
@SalliMidgley
13 October 2015 20:38
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS 8pm Let's get critical, critical I wanna get critical Appraise it unequivocal Read the paper? Now let's talk! http:…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:38
As for the clinical significance - it seemed significant to me (she says cautiously!) #weCATS
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:38
@WeNurses YAM statistically significant at 12/12, is it clinically significant though - p value not the whole story #WeCATS
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:38
NB in supp table 1 suicide rates vary from Italy 6.3, to Hungary 24.6. Could bias results. http://t.co/rJEWsbdCUP #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:38
RT @CASPUK: #wecats Q4 What is more important? Statistical significance or clinical significance?
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:38
@gosia_bal @UKCochraneCentr Glad! There's a bit of steam rising off my fingers I think! #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:39
RT @AgencyNurse: As for the clinical significance - it seemed significant to me (she says cautiously!) #weCATS
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 20:39
@gosia_bal @WeNurses @Laconic_doc haha v. true - some acknowledgement of cultural differences in the paper wouldn't go amiss tho! #weCATS
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:39
@tadhg50 @CASPUK OR = Odds Ratio http://t.co/1fzEeINrHv #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:39
@Mental_Elf @CASPUK Thanks Andre. #WeCATS
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:39
Stat signif irrelevant if no clin signif! RT @CASPUK: #wecats Q4 What is more important? Statistical significance or clinical significance?
@luybenans
13 October 2015 20:39
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 3 ANSWER Here are the numbers. When you get time, it is good to see if the figures all add up! http://t.co/31R…
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:39
@CASPUK Both are important to me. With limited resources surely need both to justify an intervention? #WeCATS
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:40
RT @Laconic_doc: NB in supp table 1 suicide rates vary from Italy 6.3, to Hungary 24.6. Could bias results. http://t.co/rJEWsbdCUP #wecats
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:40
@Lifuinthelib I thought they discussed that somewhere, but I’m struggling to find it now #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:40
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK OR = Odds Ratio http://t.co/1fzEeINrHv #wecats
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:40
@gosia_bal @WeNurses @Laconic_doc different contries/religions/schools/economic regions/social support etc difficult to measure #WeCATS
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:40
@tadhg50 @CASPUK And CI = Confidence Interval (or Margin of Error) http://t.co/4oNwD3xzrV #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:40
RT @CALL_247: #WeCATS @gosia_bal agreed. #youngpeople can sometimes find it hard to express distress with words. Patience & the right ques…
@WeDistrictNurse
13 October 2015 20:40
RT @WeNurses: #WECATS QUESTION 4 > http://t.co/wiTZGdQ03M
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:40
#WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:40
Surely one is linked to the other ? #WeCATS https://t.co/e4mcShTCPt
@SJMcDonn
13 October 2015 20:40
RT @gosia_bal: Thanks for reminding us! Those are young vulnerable people/children really only 15 years old #wecats https://t.co/LDNlDaR1…
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:41
@UKCochraneCentr @Mental_Elf @CASPUK Again-Thanks #weCATS
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:41
RT @Laconic_doc: 2/2 statistically RT @CASPUK: #wecats @laconic_doc A3 regarding cultural differences in suicidal behaviour how could this …
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:41
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @CASPUK Important to distinguish statistical significance from clinical significance. #wecats
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:41
no point getting wrong answer to 5 decimal places! RT @CASPUK: #wecats Q4 What is more important? Statistical signif or clin signif?
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:41
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Study findings from the abstract. This is where you'd normally look for headline results http://t.co/…
@HeatherBain9
13 October 2015 20:41
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @CASPUK Important to distinguish statistical significance from clinical significance. #wecats
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:41
@CASPUK bottom line has to be clinical significance in this setting. #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:41
Oops - forgot the hashtag (again). Odds rations #WeCATS http://t.co/30yM1Ofmh3
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:42
@CASPUK @Laconic_doc tricky one as reporting of suicidal thoughts influenced ++ by stigma (personal, self-stigma & perceived stigma) #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:42
#WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER NNT Number Needed to Treat We love NNTs - they're the most intuitive! Odds ratios aren't! http://t.co/oJHugdAKbB
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @AlysColeKing: @CASPUK Both are important to me. With limited resources surely need both to justify an intervention? #WeCATS
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @Laconic_doc: no point getting wrong answer to 5 decimal places! RT @CASPUK: #wecats Q4 What is more important? Statistical signif or cl…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK And CI = Confidence Interval (or Margin of Error) http://t.co/4oNwD3xzrV #wecats
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:42
@CASPUK Or in this case, number needed to prevent #WeCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK And CI = Confidence Interval (or Margin of Error) http://t.co/4oNwD3xzrV #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Oops - forgot the hashtag (again). Odds rations #WeCATS http://t.co/30yM1Ofmh3
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:42
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Oops - forgot the hashtag (again). Odds rations #WeCATS http://t.co/30yM1Ofmh3
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:42
#weCATS Q4 AgencyNurse Yes but something can be statistically significant but have limited effect in real life.
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:42
@tomroper @CASPUK Thanks! #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:43
Do earmark the wonderful GET-IT Glossary for jargon busting http://t.co/7601O5snXB #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:43
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER NNT Number Needed to Treat We love NNTs - they're the most intuitive! Odds ratios aren't! http://t.co…
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:43
@tomroper @CASPUK #wecats thank you Tom!
@SP_Duckworth
13 October 2015 20:43
@AgencyNurse Too a point you can have very high statistical significance with very low clinical utility and vice versa. @CASPUK #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:43
@jaydeyyyyy @WeNurses @Laconic_doc agree, acknowledgment will be good;#wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:43
@CASPUK @Laconic_doc As well as developmental and cognitive diffs in 'Adolescence'? #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:43
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER NNT Number Needed to Treat We love NNTs - they're the most intuitive! Odds ratios aren't! http://t.co…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:43
Makes sense #WeCATS :) https://t.co/CzKubCU2hk
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:44
RT @tomroper: @CASPUK Or in this case, number needed to prevent #WeCATS
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:44
Thank you #WeCATS https://t.co/na74tB6lPW
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:44
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Do earmark the wonderful GET-IT Glossary for jargon busting http://t.co/7601O5snXB #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:44
@CASPUK @AgencyNurse You sure that doesn't mean Nurses Need Twitter?! ;-) #wecats
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:44
If confidence interval crosses 1.0 then the finding is not statistically different from control RT @Mental_Elf: @tomroper @CASPUK #wecats
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 20:44
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Do earmark the wonderful GET-IT Glossary for jargon busting http://t.co/7601O5snXB #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:45
#weCATS Q4 Is it worth doing a prevention programme with 167 people to prevent 1 suicide attempt per year?
@Time4Recovery
13 October 2015 20:45
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:45
@matthewvanloo @WeNurses @Laconic_doc I would say impossible! #wecats
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:45
RT @matthewvanloo: @CASPUK bottom line has to be clinical significance in this setting. #WeCATS
@MissZoeB95
13 October 2015 20:45
Often statistical data can give us an indication of possible events but can never identify the true outcome for an individual #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:45
RT @matthewvanloo: @CASPUK bottom line has to be clinical significance in this setting. #WeCATS
@CG_Sheikh
13 October 2015 20:46
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Our friends at @CALL_247 & @121depression are available to help you if you need help or support
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:46
@matthewvanloo @CASPUK Arguably in others (all?). Trend seems to be to move away from statistical significance. Meaningful?? #wecats
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:46
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK And CI = Confidence Interval (or Margin of Error) http://t.co/4oNwD3xzrV #wecats
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:46
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:46
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER NNT Number Needed to Treat We love NNTs - they're the most intuitive! Odds ratios aren't! http://t.co…
@HealthUKTD
13 October 2015 20:46
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Oops - forgot the hashtag (again). Odds rations #WeCATS http://t.co/30yM1Ofmh3
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:46
Financially I am sure some would say no but for me the answer has to be yes #WeCATS https://t.co/EmaZwp81xu
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:46
Do statisticians have 'odds rations' for lunch? RT @UKCochraneCentr: Oops - forgot the hashtag (again). Odds rations #WeCATS
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:46
#weCATS Q4 @MissZoeB95 Very good point and of course it depends on what we are measuring and how sensitive that is to individuals.
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:46
@MissZoeB95 Thanks Zoe #wecats
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:47
@Laconic_doc @UKCochraneCentr A shameful pun! I'm very jealous #wecats
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:47
RT @AgencyNurse: Financially I am sure some would say no but for me the answer has to be yes #WeCATS https://t.co/EmaZwp81xu
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:47
@Laconic_doc @UKCochraneCentr I thought someone would spot that! Fingers flying - too fast! #wecats
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:47
RT @CASPUK: #weCATS Q4 @MissZoeB95 Very good point and of course it depends on what we are measuring and how sensitive that is to individua…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:47
@CASPUK Also wonder if year on year this would prevent more suicides as talking about it would seep into culture ? #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:48
@AgencyNurse @CASPUK Interesting point Teresa #wecats
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 20:48
@CASPUK prevention program may also raise awareness/give skills for future to all - regardless of current suicidality no? #WeCATS
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:48
RT @AgencyNurse: Financially I am sure some would say no but for me the answer has to be yes #WeCATS https://t.co/EmaZwp81xu
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 20:48
#WeCATS #stigma can be a barrier to seeking help for suicidal thoughts. V important to reassure there's help & hope 4 #youngpeople. (KH)
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:48
RT @CASPUK: #weCATS Q4 @MissZoeB95 Very good point and of course it depends on what we are measuring and how sensitive that is to individua…
@JohnBaker_Leeds
13 October 2015 20:48
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK OR = Odds Ratio http://t.co/1fzEeINrHv #wecats
@JohnBaker_Leeds
13 October 2015 20:48
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK And CI = Confidence Interval (or Margin of Error) http://t.co/4oNwD3xzrV #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:48
Could we actually distinguished or even look at them individually??? Aren't they closely interlinked???#wecats https://t.co/JR6rrUcb6v
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:48
#weCATS Q4 AgencyNurse These important trials can raise visibility of stigma and potential prevention.
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:48
Great to be looking at this together. I hope newbies are feeling a bit more comfortable - about critical appraisal & tweet chats! #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:48
@AgencyNurse @CASPUK anything that educates about suicide helps. #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:49
@UKCochraneCentr @CASPUK Thank you - the thing about teenagers is that they do talk and share info with eachother #WeCATS #mum
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:49
RT @121depression: @AgencyNurse @CASPUK anything that educates about suicide helps. #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:49
@CASPUK See ONS re suicide 2015. #WeCATS
@RMNSouden
13 October 2015 20:49
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention If you need help and support now Please call @samaritans in the UK and ROI 116 123 #freecall
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:49
RT @AgencyNurse: @UKCochraneCentr @CASPUK Thank you - the thing about teenagers is that they do talk and share info with eachother #WeCATS …
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:49
QUESTION 5 (and final question) #WECATS http://t.co/AUUuqiOy2L
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:49
RT @AgencyNurse: @UKCochraneCentr @CASPUK Thank you - the thing about teenagers is that they do talk and share info with eachother #WeCATS …
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:49
Q5 we don't know the suicide (or ideation) rates in the dropouts #wecats
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 20:50
Yes, schools are a great platform for prevention efforts. Age appropriate given risk. Captive audience etc #wecats
@Drhelenlp
13 October 2015 20:50
RT @gosia_bal: Thanks for reminding us! Those are young vulnerable people/children really only 15 years old #wecats https://t.co/LDNlDaR1…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:50
Absolutely #WeCATS https://t.co/tFsQrsE5cQ
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:50
RT @Mental_Elf: Yes, schools are a great platform for prevention efforts. Age appropriate given risk. Captive audience etc #wecats
@jotacosta104
13 October 2015 20:50
@CASPUK @CASPUK: #wecats The more important is clinical significance!!
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:50
RT @jotacosta104: @CASPUK @CASPUK: #wecats The more important is clinical significance!!
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:50
I agree #WeCATS https://t.co/W4dWZKI2RU
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:50
But it also can be the other way round???#WeCATS https://t.co/9qOM7FFzvy
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:50
RT @Laconic_doc: Q5 we don't know the suicide (or ideation) rates in the dropouts #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:50
RT @Laconic_doc: Q5 we don't know the suicide (or ideation) rates in the dropouts #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:51
@CALL_247 yes true. Also religious 'damnation'/criminal connotations that not that long ago were associated with it linger sadly. #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:51
RT @Mental_Elf: Yes, schools are a great platform for prevention efforts. Age appropriate given risk. Captive audience etc #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:51
RT @Laconic_doc: Q5 we don't know the suicide (or ideation) rates in the dropouts #wecats
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:51
statistical significance is abstract mathematical concept - chances this didn't happen randomly (usu arbitrarily set at <1 in 20) #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:51
@CASPUK #WeCATS http://t.co/wAvZBXZVHK
@maggsy2000
13 October 2015 20:51
RT @Mental_Elf: Yes, schools are a great platform for prevention efforts. Age appropriate given risk. Captive audience etc #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:51
haha yep #weCATS https://t.co/UMwtWGSK7q
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:52
#WeCATS QUESTION 5 ANSWER Here's what the authors say about their study outcomes http://t.co/ku13uafdhH
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:52
RT @Laconic_doc: Q5 we don't know the suicide (or ideation) rates in the dropouts #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:52
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 5 ANSWER Here's what the authors say about their study outcomes http://t.co/ku13uafdhH
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:52
#weCATS Q5 Broadly, yes. Incident suicide attempts and severe suicidal ideation at 3 and 12 months, both reported.
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:52
NB Hawthorn effect - how did schools *not* involved in study do?! #wecats
@AlysColeKing
13 October 2015 20:52
@CASPUK Yes! Ask the parents of the child. 68% of young people who die by suicide have self-harmed. Vital reduce self-harm too #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:52
RT @Laconic_doc: NB Hawthorn effect - how did schools *not* involved in study do?! #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:52
@UKCochraneCentr Getting there #WeCATS
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 20:52
@AgencyNurse @UKCochraneCentr @CASPUK #wecats raising awareness &reducing stigma will surely have ripple effect & potentially help more
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 20:52
@UKCochraneCentr I'm mostly lurking tonight as got to it late, but seems to be working very well. Some good points. #wecats
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 20:53
@121depression #WeCATS V true. Thats why the language used is so important!
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:53
#weCATS Q5 But I’m not enough of a subject expert here to know if there are nuances here
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:53
I struggle with question 5 ... find it hard to see things that arent there ! #WeCATS :( https://t.co/nbSs7aIpxU
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:53
RT @CALL_247: @121depression #WeCATS V true. Thats why the language used is so important!
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:53
@AgencyNurse @CASPUK I guess open conversations are always good!Though difficult topic! #wecats
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:53
NB even 'control' group had relevant posters displayed (for ethical reasons) so not *true* control! #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:53
@MandyHollis3 @UKCochraneCentr That's good to hear! We welcome lurkers (& you just became a joiner!) #wecats
@DrAlisonHill
13 October 2015 20:54
#weCATS this is my first critical appraisal Twitter session. So many great contributions.
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:54
RT @AgencyNurse: I struggle with question 5 ... find it hard to see things that arent there ! #WeCATS :( https://t.co/nbSs7aIpxU
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:54
RT @AgencyNurse: I struggle with question 5 ... find it hard to see things that arent there ! #WeCATS :( https://t.co/nbSs7aIpxU
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:54
Yes i was thinking ripples too #weCATS ... hard to measure but always there https://t.co/4VAWpRPquS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:54
@Laconic_doc @tadhg50 @UKCochraneCentr That's an interesting one isn't it? #wecats
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:54
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses often difficult without designing a completely different study #WeCATS
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:55
Q5 we don't know effect on local communities (eg schools not involved in study, but whose pupils chatted to those who were) #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:55
@jaydeyyyyy @CASPUK prevention is always better then cure! #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:55
@DrAlisonHill It's a good way to learn together isn't it? #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:55
#weCATS Q5 AgencyNurse maybe a good way to think about it is what would I want measured if it was my teenager in the trial?
@tai_the_ot
13 October 2015 20:55
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 20:55
RT @AgencyNurse: Yes i was thinking ripples too #weCATS ... hard to measure but always there https://t.co/4VAWpRPquS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:55
Great contributions - thanks so much everyone! Five minutes left - yikes! #wecats
@SP_Duckworth
13 October 2015 20:55
Some things are just morally desirable, regardless of hard evidence. #WeCATS https://t.co/VnPdVIs8Jr
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:56
regading suicide, it's prevention or nothing. RT @gosia_bal: @jaydeyyyyy @CASPUK prevention is always better then cure! #wecats
@xray_nick
13 October 2015 20:56
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 20:56
#weCATS q5 is where i'd want a qualitative element - suicide is so personal & individual, feels strange just dealing with it all numerically
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:56
@FoxHedgehog I feel we might need t-shirts with that on! #wecats
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 20:56
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses Often seen as linked but 'intentionality' seen as different! Survival v cessation #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:56
#WeCATS So, how does everyone feel about this study in broad terms? http://t.co/C976l3MLBi
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:56
@Lifuinthelib Yes, I think that’s why I find Q5 difficult to answer fully #WeCATS
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:56
#wecats Great :) Such an important subject to learn about @UKCochraneCentr @DrAlisonHill
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:56
RT @jaydeyyyyy: #weCATS q5 is where i'd want a qualitative element - suicide is so personal & individual, feels strange just dealing with i…
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:56
#weCATS Q5 jaydeyyyyy That is a really good point.
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:57
@UKCochraneCentr @FoxHedgehog That's the frightening reality isn't it? #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:57
@matthewvanloo @WeNurses lol yes can see that ! It did briefly mention peer support - perhaps this could have been explored more #WeCATS
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 20:57
RT @FoxHedgehog: Some things are just morally desirable, regardless of hard evidence. #WeCATS https://t.co/VnPdVIs8Jr
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:57
@UKCochraneCentr @FoxHedgehog Think I mixed up my tweets there - supposed to be answering @Laconic_doc! #wecats
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 20:57
RT @tadhg50: @matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses Often seen as linked but 'intentionality' seen as different! Survival v cessation #wecats
@bmuntane
13 October 2015 20:57
RT @Mental_Elf: @tadhg50 @CASPUK And CI = Confidence Interval (or Margin of Error) http://t.co/4oNwD3xzrV #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:57
Thank you - yes that helps #WeCATS https://t.co/YKvMBhKJpX
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:57
#weCATS Q5 Researcher are now using mixed quantitative and qualitative approaches - look out for them
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:58
@jaydeyyyyy yes. #unique #wecats
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 20:58
@UKCochraneCentr Yes, I guess I have ? #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 20:58
That's a very deep thought!!!!#wecats https://t.co/gIxR4pID3u
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 20:58
@CASPUK in that case i would have wanted to know what in particluar they found useful in YAM and why this helped #weCATS
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 20:58
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses what about economics of programme delivery, thoughts of children involved, parental opinions #WeCATS
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 20:58
From a pt centred point of view, no youngsters were involved in the trial design, as far as I can see. Is that right? #wecats
@MedRadJclub
13 October 2015 20:58
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Confidence Interval http://t.co/8200LHXAz2
@tomroper
13 October 2015 20:59
#weCATS I was puzzled by the ‘systematic review' they mention (research in context box p 1542). Poorly reported, and no search of CINAHL
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 20:59
@Laconic_doc Good point #wecats
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 20:59
#EEK 2 mins now !#weCATS https://t.co/Lo1tz5QKu0
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 20:59
#WeCATS QUESTION 5 ANSWER Nearing the end now! Here's how the authors interpreted their own findings http://t.co/DQKYs5D3Ap
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 20:59
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses parental opinions would be v interesting! as i'm sure views were given at home on program #wecats
@karagerrie
13 October 2015 20:59
RT @WeNurses: Tonights paper is from the Lancet > School-based suicide prevention programmes http://t.co/qfD6XVvP5K #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 20:59
@Laconic_doc That's important isn't it? I need to look again #wecats
@chriskielyuc
13 October 2015 20:59
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 4 ANSWER Study findings from the abstract. This is where you'd normally look for headline results http://t.co/…
@121depression
13 October 2015 20:59
#wecats - #depressionhurts is adding resources, internationally to our website. If you want your group, practice etc mentioned pls DM
@chriskielyuc
13 October 2015 20:59
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @CASPUK Important to distinguish statistical significance from clinical significance. #wecats
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 21:00
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses and that could impact on the PPs engagement in program #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 21:00
@Laconic_doc Ooh dunno - good point though #WeCATS
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 21:00
@matthewvanloo @AgencyNurse @WeNurses And health service economy at present! #WeCATS
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:00
#WeCATS We blogged about this RCT back in March: Suicide prevention in schools: all plain SEYLE-ing? http://t.co/buhPvsrsip @StephenWood8
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:00
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 5 ANSWER Nearing the end now! Here's how the authors interpreted their own findings http://t.co/DQKYs5D3Ap
@dan_247
13 October 2015 21:00
RT @CALL_247: #WeCATS #stigma can be a barrier to seeking help for suicidal thoughts. V important to reassure there's help & hope 4 #youngp…
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:00
#WeCATS We also had an #ElfCampfire expert discussion on the SEYLE #SuicidePrevention trial. You can watch it here: http://t.co/DEYvvAaRp9
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:00
We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 21:00
#wecats this is our second session and we have tackled a challenging topic and complex paper. Well done all for staying with it.
@tombssimon
13 October 2015 21:00
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We blogged about this RCT back in March: Suicide prevention in schools: all plain SEYLE-ing? http://t.co/buhPvsrsip…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:00
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We blogged about this RCT back in March: Suicide prevention in schools: all plain SEYLE-ing? http://t.co/buhPvsrsip…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @CASPUK: #wecats this is our second session and we have tackled a challenging topic and complex paper. Well done all for staying with i…
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @CASPUK: #wecats this is our second session and we have tackled a challenging topic and complex paper. Well done all for staying with i…
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @WeNurses: We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:01
You've been fantastic! #wecats
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We blogged about this RCT back in March: Suicide prevention in schools: all plain SEYLE-ing? http://t.co/buhPvsrsip…
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:01
#WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Big thanks to @CALL_247 & @121depression for supporting the chat tonight @WeNurses @CASPUK @
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @WeNurses: We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Big thanks to @CALL_247 & @121depression for supporting the chat tonight @WeNurses @CASPUK @
@tomroper
13 October 2015 21:01
#WeCATS And they don’t report clearly who did the systematic review, though they report everything else in Contributors
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:01
RT @WeNurses: We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 21:01
#wecats see http://t.co/q5b3ZGX74k for the full randomised trial checklist.
@hanna_louise
13 October 2015 21:02
Following #WeCATS. Interesting discussion @CASPUK. Ideal critical appraisal training for novices to health research. http://t.co/xBrb1xq3VP
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 21:02
RT @WeNurses: We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:02
RT @CASPUK: #wecats see http://t.co/q5b3ZGX74k for the full randomised trial checklist.
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 21:02
@tomroper it adds nothing to the paper #WeCATS
@121depression
13 October 2015 21:02
A pleasure - best to all and sadly have to dash this evening. #wecats @Mental_Elf @CALL_247 @WeNurses @CASPUK
@tadhg50
13 October 2015 21:02
@WeNurses Thanks for the session! Enjoyed it #weCATS @Mental_Elf @CASPUK @UKCochraneCentr
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 21:02
#WeCATS @WeNurses 1h is not enough!!! Many thanks to All!
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 21:02
RT @WeNurses: We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@TrishaL8
13 October 2015 21:02
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Big thanks to @CALL_247 & @121depression for supporting the chat tonight @WeNurses @CASPUK @
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:02
#WeCATS is just the start of the critical appraisal process @CASPUK have some fab resources if u want to continue http://t.co/Nu4lwu1j2J
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:02
@gosia_bal @WeNurses Agree! It goes so fast! #wecats
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 21:02
RT @hanna_louise: Following #WeCATS. Interesting discussion @CASPUK. Ideal critical appraisal training for novices to health research. http…
@tomroper
13 October 2015 21:02
@matthewvanloo Yes. If a decent SR, then worthy of publication in its own right #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:02
RT @WeNurses: #WeCATS is just the start of the critical appraisal process @CASPUK have some fab resources if u want to continue http://t.…
@xray_nick
13 October 2015 21:03
RT @WeNurses: We are nearly at full time for #WeCATS this evening - dont forget to Tweet us your evaluation > http://t.co/pRsYFprMvV
@xray_nick
13 October 2015 21:03
RT @CASPUK: #wecats see http://t.co/q5b3ZGX74k for the full randomised trial checklist.
@EnzoRD_PhD
13 October 2015 21:03
RT @UKCochraneCentr: Do earmark the wonderful GET-IT Glossary for jargon busting http://t.co/7601O5snXB #wecats
@121depression
13 October 2015 21:03
#wecats please dm if you want your group, practice etc adding to our resource list online Thanks #Internationallist
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:03
Huge thanks to the #WeCATS team tonight @Mental_Elf @CASPUK @UKCochraneCentr Ace job cats :D
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:03
RT @tadhg50: @WeNurses Thanks for the session! Enjoyed it #weCATS @Mental_Elf @CASPUK @UKCochraneCentr
@matthewvanloo
13 October 2015 21:03
@tomroper I read it as their attempt to say "we are the first in Europe to do this study" #WeCATS
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 21:03
#WeCATS @Mental_Elf thanks for inviting us along !!! (KH)
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:03
RT @WeNurses: Huge thanks to the #WeCATS team tonight @Mental_Elf @CASPUK @UKCochraneCentr Ace job cats :D
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:03
RT @WeNurses: Huge thanks to the #WeCATS team tonight @Mental_Elf @CASPUK @UKCochraneCentr Ace job cats :D
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:04
wooaahhhhh that went quickly - learnt so much ! Thank you all #WeCATS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:04
@WeNurses @Mental_Elf @CASPUK @UKCochraneCentr Thanks all! Great session #wecats
@jaydeyyyyy
13 October 2015 21:04
#weCATS thanks v much. really interesting to watch & participate in, and v. accesible, even for a mere undergraduate like me! :)
@Laconic_doc
13 October 2015 21:04
Thx to #WeCATS for opportunity to join in - still getting used to tweetchats in general, good to practise (& some useful links)!
@Gailybm
13 October 2015 21:04
RT @WeNurses: Critical Appraisal Twitter Session #WeCATS 8pm - all welcome from novice to expert How to join in > http://t.co/fGIoWe0RXS
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:04
@jaydeyyyyy Hooray! Accessible is one of our favourite words! ('Chocolate' is good too...) #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:04
RT @CASPUK: #wecats see http://t.co/q5b3ZGX74k for the full randomised trial checklist.
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:04
RT @CASPUK: #wecats see http://t.co/q5b3ZGX74k for the full randomised trial checklist.
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:05
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Big thanks to @CALL_247 & @121depression for supporting the chat tonight @WeNurses @CASPUK @
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:05
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS #SuicidePrevention Big thanks to @CALL_247 & @121depression for supporting the chat tonight @WeNurses @CASPUK @
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:05
@Laconic_doc Thanks for your contributions - really insightful :-) #wecats
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 21:05
Fantastic thanks; my first chat; so many great thoughts & ideas!#wecats @WeNurses https://t.co/5IjaFvVYma
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:05
Fab for me tonight #WeCATS Cant wait till next time - feel i am getting better ! https://t.co/BUdqEwSFNv
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:05
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We also had an #ElfCampfire expert discussion on the SEYLE #SuicidePrevention trial. You can watch it here: http://…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:05
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We also had an #ElfCampfire expert discussion on the SEYLE #SuicidePrevention trial. You can watch it here: http://…
@JohnBaker_Leeds
13 October 2015 21:05
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We also had an #ElfCampfire expert discussion on the SEYLE #SuicidePrevention trial. You can watch it here: http://…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We blogged about this RCT back in March: Suicide prevention in schools: all plain SEYLE-ing? http://t.co/buhPvsrsip…
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @Mental_Elf: #WeCATS We blogged about this RCT back in March: Suicide prevention in schools: all plain SEYLE-ing? http://t.co/buhPvsrsip…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:06
@gosia_bal @WeNurses Hopefully not your last chat! Look out for details of the next #WeCATS
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 5 ANSWER Nearing the end now! Here's how the authors interpreted their own findings http://t.co/DQKYs5D3Ap
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS QUESTION 5 ANSWER Nearing the end now! Here's how the authors interpreted their own findings http://t.co/DQKYs5D3Ap
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:06
@AgencyNurse What's the next #WeCATS topic? Is that you @UKCochraneCentr? @CASPUK
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @tomroper: #weCATS I was puzzled by the ‘systematic review' they mention (research in context box p 1542). Poorly reported, and no searc…
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @gosia_bal: Fantastic thanks; my first chat; so many great thoughts & ideas!#wecats @WeNurses https://t.co/5IjaFvVYma
@tomroper
13 October 2015 21:06
Thanks #WeCATS contributors and facilitators, enjoyed that. Now I must see to the #cats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @gosia_bal: That's a very deep thought!!!!#wecats https://t.co/gIxR4pID3u
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:06
RT @gosia_bal: That's a very deep thought!!!!#wecats https://t.co/gIxR4pID3u
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:06
@AgencyNurse YAY! #wecats
@CALL_247
13 October 2015 21:07
#WeCATS and a final goodnight to @Mental_Elf @121depression @WeNurses @CASPUK & @AlysColeKing from @CALL_247
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 21:07
thanks @tomroper and @ukcochranecentr for your helpful tweets smoothing the process for #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:07
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS So, how does everyone feel about this study in broad terms? http://t.co/C976l3MLBi
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:07
RT @CASPUK: #WeCATS So, how does everyone feel about this study in broad terms? http://t.co/C976l3MLBi
@sally_crowe
13 October 2015 21:07
RT @AgencyNurse: Fab for me tonight #WeCATS Cant wait till next time - feel i am getting better ! https://t.co/BUdqEwSFNv
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 21:07
Excellent, helpful guide #wecats https://t.co/TR2heANTpp
@Mental_Elf
13 October 2015 21:07
@CALL_247 @Mental_Elf @121depression @WeNurses @CASPUK @AlysColeKing Nighty night x #wecats
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:07
@CASPUK @tomroper @UKCochraneCentr Loads of great contributions tonight. Love the experience of learning together #wecats
@CASPUK
13 October 2015 21:08
#wecats Good night all!
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 21:08
RT @WeNurses: #WeCATS is just the start of the critical appraisal process @CASPUK have some fab resources if u want to continue http://t.…
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:08
Agree with this #WeCATS https://t.co/y7NP1pm86Z
@SianP107
13 October 2015 21:08
#WeCATS #wenurses thanks for the links and info. find i learn lots from reviewing the archive chat esp for topic's like reviews of RCT's.
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:08
All from me for tonight (blogging a Cochrane review tomorrow). Thanks everyone. Night #wecats
@AgencyNurse
13 October 2015 21:08
RT @FoxHedgehog: Some things are just morally desirable, regardless of hard evidence. #WeCATS https://t.co/VnPdVIs8Jr
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:09
Night night #WeCATS https://t.co/dlY7cXwABs
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:09
@dormouse107 most welcome and glad it helps #WeCATS
@SarahChapman30
13 October 2015 21:09
Night #WeCATS - just waving from my not @UKCochraneCentr account!
@edouriez
13 October 2015 21:11
RT @UKCochraneCentr: @CASPUK Important to distinguish statistical significance from clinical significance. #wecats
@SarahChapman30
13 October 2015 21:12
Feeling cosy after #WeCATS http://t.co/DG51gCMa1Y
@MandyHollis3
13 October 2015 21:12
@WeNurses I thought #wecats was #Good tonight. Probably have found it better if I'd time to read full paper but only time 2 scan read ??
@hanna_louise
13 October 2015 21:12
Hi #WeCATS I'm Hannah. Work in NHS research gov. Sorry for joining tonight's session so late. Will this be regular thing? Will join nxt time
@WeNurses
13 October 2015 21:13
RT @MandyHollis3: @WeNurses I thought #wecats was #Good tonight. Probably have found it better if I'd time to read full paper but only tim…
@CochraneUK
13 October 2015 21:13
RT @SarahChapman30: Night #WeCATS - just waving from my not @UKCochraneCentr account!
@gosia_bal
13 October 2015 21:14
We can not look at life 'financially'! @WeNurses #WeCATS https://t.co/ZyertMwNUg




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