#WeNurses - Thursday 22nd November 2018 8pm (GMT Standard Time) Discussing the headlines: Violence against nurses

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It seems that nursing, nurses and healthcare are always in the news - this is the first in a new type of #WeNurses discussions that delves a little deeper into the headlines and gives you the opportunity to share what you think. 

Recently new measures were announced to clampdown on violence against NHS staff - the BBC reported on it HERE but in summary:

  • Staff are to be given better training in dealing with violent situations
  • Offenders will be prosecuted quicker
  • Health Secretary Matt Hancock says the NHS will adopt a "zero tolerance" approach to violence against its staff.
  • A bill to double the sentence for assaults on emergency workers from six months to a year is expected to become law

HSJ and UNISON (2018) state that "Reported physical attacks on NHS staff within these trusts rose by just under 5,000 or 9.7 per cent between 2015-16 and 2016-17" And a recent Guardian article (2018) mentioned that "The World Health Organization says health workers are at a high risk of physical violence all over the globe, and estimates that between 8% and 38% of staff in different countries suffer at some point in their careers. A study by the International Council of Nurses concluded that healthcare workers were more likely to be attacked at work than prison guards or police officers, and that female nurses were most at risk." This is a problem that is not only not going away but is also on the increase ... so whats the solution? 

This #WeNurses discussion aims to explore some of the following questions:

  • What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers?
  • What can be done to reduce the risk of violence from the people we care for or their relatives or friends? 
  • How do we support one another to deal with violent incidents?
  • What do you think a "zero tolerance" approach to violence against healthcare staff should look like? 





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@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:00
Hi everyone - welcome to tonights #WeNurses Tweetchat Tonight we are exploring violent incidents towards nurses https://t.co/WGOe3gQocN
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:00
RT @WeNurses: Hi everyone - welcome to tonights #WeNurses Tweetchat Tonight we are exploring violent incidents towards nurses https://t.c…
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:01
@WeNurses Such a timely issue with the news of a nurse being attacked in hospital grounds in Scotland today #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:01
RT @WeNurses: Hi everyone - welcome to tonights #WeNurses Tweetchat Tonight we are exploring violent incidents towards nurses https://t.c…
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:02
QUESTION 1 What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers? #WeNurses https://t.co/9NYQGPqrHz
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:02
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 1 What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers? #WeNurses https://t.co/9NYQGPq…
@louisechicks1
22 November 2018 20:03
RT @WeNurses: Hi everyone - welcome to tonights #WeNurses Tweetchat Tonight we are exploring violent incidents towards nurses https://t.c…
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:04
Absolutely ! #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:04
RT @WeNurses: Absolutely ! #WeNurses https://twitter.com/jadvnursing/status/1065696841885458437
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:04
Hello Teresa here #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:05
@WeNurses #WeNurses it does seem to be an international phenomenon not just U.K.
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:05
RT @WeNurses: What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers? > https://buff.ly/2DsXoXL #WeNurses TONIGH…
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:05
RT @WeNurses: Absolutely ! #WeNurses https://twitter.com/jadvnursing/status/1065696841885458437
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:05
RT @AgencyNurse: Hello Teresa here #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:06
Yes indeed WHO state healthcare workers from all over the world are at high risk #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:06
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 1 What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers? #WeNurses https://t.co/9NYQGPq…
@PUNC14
22 November 2018 20:07
@WeNurses #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:07
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses - I wonder what the reasons are behind this increase?
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:07
Interesting question ... anyone know the answer ? #wenurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:07
RT @PUNC14: @WeNurses #WeNurses
@PUNC14
22 November 2018 20:08
@jadvnursing @AgencyNurse Is it better reporting #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:08
@PUNC14 @WeNurses I would think so as more likely to assault in high stress situation like a/e? #wenurses??
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:08
@WeNurses #WeNurses we are starting to see more research on this now. Which is an indication of the prevalence of the problem.
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:10
RT @PUNC14: @jadvnursing @AgencyNurse Is it better reporting #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:10
RT @WeNurses: Interesting question ... anyone know the answer ? #wenurses https://twitter.com/PUNC14/status/1065698149015175173
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:11
@Louise90999815 @PUNC14 @WeNurses #WeNurses yes, and also mental health cate settings too.
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:13
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses really? Is that a research based correlation? I’m not aware of any research evidence for that?
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:13
I've never been a victim of physical violence at work but have experienced verbal assaults .... and that is frightening enough #WeNurses
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:13
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 1 What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers? #WeNurses https://t.co/9NYQGPq…
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:13
RT @jadvnursing: @WeNurses Such a timely issue with the news of a nurse being attacked in hospital grounds in Scotland today #WeNurses
@MaryDunningTU
22 November 2018 20:14
@WeNurses Is it reflective of the changes in society? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:15
@jadvnursing the report says its data has been collated through FOI ... full report here >https://guides.hsj.co.uk/5713.guide #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:15
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses - that’s awful. Every professional should feel safe at work. I have paramedic and firefighte… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065700369286742017
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:15
Interesting thought ... is it ?? #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:16
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses thanks @AgencyNurse
@mynameisAndyJ
22 November 2018 20:17
Just looking in #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:18
@jadvnursing yes i have heard similar stories ... A&E another tricky environment #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:18
@mynameisAndyJ Hello Andy #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:19
We agree #WeNurses
@mynameisAndyJ
22 November 2018 20:19
@WeNurses #WeNurses hi all another special chat
@PUNCJack
22 November 2018 20:19
@MaryDunningTU @WeNurses Which changes do you mean? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:19
Important points #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:19
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses yes. Agree. And how we care for our colleagues who have experienced being attacked.
@NCLEXprof
22 November 2018 20:20
RT @jadvnursing: @WeNurses #WeNurses we are starting to see more research on this now. Which is an indication of the prevalence of the pro…
@MaryDunningTU
22 November 2018 20:20
@WeNurses Wonder if the increase in violence relates to availability of alcohol, illicit substances and illegal highs #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:21
@PUNCJack @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses - a growing lack of respect for professionals maybe?
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:21
RT @jadvnursing: @AgencyNurse #WeNurses yes. Agree. And how we care for our colleagues who have experienced being attacked.
@mynameisAndyJ
22 November 2018 20:21
RT @jadvnursing: @AgencyNurse #WeNurses yes. Agree. And how we care for our colleagues who have experienced being attacked.
@STPHCareers
22 November 2018 20:22
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@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:23
This might explain some but not all of such incidences I think #WeNurses
@mynameisAndyJ
22 November 2018 20:25
@AgencyNurse @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses Agree fully - https://twitter.com/agencynurse/status/1065702142399442944?s=21 #WeNurses maybe also the media fuelling… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065702858740457472
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:26
Good point Jack - what do people think ?? #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:26
RT @mynameisAndyJ: @AgencyNurse @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses Agree fully - https://twitter.com/agencynurse/status/1065702142399442944?s=21 #WeNurses maybe also the media fuelling the…
@PDarigan
22 November 2018 20:26
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 1 What are your thoughts about the increase in violence against healthcare workers? #WeNurses https://t.co/9NYQGPq…
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:26
@PUNCJack @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses no evidence for that in any of the research I’m familiar with Jack. Co… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065703087178952705
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:26
@mynameisAndyJ @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses yes indeed Andy ... perhaps people are already "upset" by the time they even get to us #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:27
@PUNCJack @jadvnursing @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses yes i am sure in some cases it does #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:27
RT @livinginhope: This might explain some but not all of such incidences I think #WeNurses https://twitter.com/marydunningtu/status/1065701592194789376
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:27
RT @mynameisAndyJ: @AgencyNurse @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses Agree fully - https://twitter.com/agencynurse/status/1065702142399442944?s=21 #WeNurses maybe also the media fuelling the…
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:27
RT @jadvnursing: @PUNCJack @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses no evidence for that in any of the research I’m familiar with Jack. Could be…
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:28
RT @jadvnursing: @PUNCJack @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses no evidence for that in any of the research I’m familiar with Jack. Could be…
@PUNCJack
22 November 2018 20:29
@jadvnursing @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses I hadn't looked into it myself, was pure curiosity. #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:29
@WeNurses #WeNurses - violence towards health professionals is a growing problem globally. So we have to be cautiou… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065703818158051329
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:29
An excellent point #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:30
QUESTION 3 How do we support one another to deal with violent incidents? #WeNurses https://t.co/VhDFZufgwJ
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:30
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 3 How do we support one another to deal with violent incidents? #WeNurses https://t.co/VhDFZufgwJ
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:30
@PUNCJack @AgencyNurse @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses very good point.
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:31
This is a good point Theresa #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:32
@WeNurses I think first and foremost it's about ensuring that the police are called and that staff and other patients are safe #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:32
@WeNurses #WeNurses v good and important question. We have some studies on that topic in our virtual issue in… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065704697942720517
@Sectioned_
22 November 2018 20:33
@AgencyNurse #WeNurses Yes, research by @chrispaps shows that it is staff (not patients) who influence levels of co… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065704874690654209
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:35
Interesting stuff #WeNurses Not being A MH nurse myself i was thinking more general settings ... so MH settings a… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065705367181631493
@PUNC14
22 November 2018 20:36
RT @Sectioned_: @AgencyNurse #WeNurses Yes, research by @chrispaps shows that it is staff (not patients) who influence levels of conflict &…
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:36
@MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses have a look at the research studies in our virtual issue out today. Increasing a… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065705596442345473
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:36
Thanks for sharing #WeNurses
@Sectioned_
22 November 2018 20:37
@AgencyNurse Here are a couple of links to that research: > http://www.mentalhealthy.co.uk/news/1551-new-insight-into-acute-inpatient-psychiatric-care.html > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221769633_The_antecedents_of_violence_and_aggression_within_psychiatric_in-patient_setting #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:38
RT @WeNurses: Thanks for sharing #WeNurses https://twitter.com/jadvnursing/status/1065705596442345473
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:38
RT @Sectioned_: @AgencyNurse Here are a couple of links to that research: > http://www.mentalhealthy.co.uk/news/1551-new-insight-into-acute-inpatient-psychiatric-care.html > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221769633_The_antecedents_of_violence_and_aggression_within_psychiatric_in-patient_setting #WeNurses
@chrispaps
22 November 2018 20:38
RT @Sectioned_: @AgencyNurse #WeNurses Yes, research by @chrispaps shows that it is staff (not patients) who influence levels of conflict &…
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:39
@PUNCJack @WeNurses also perhaps think about increased security measures etc #WeNurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:39
Thank you - will have a read #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:40
A few more links for you all Thank you @Sectioned_ #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:41
@Louise90999815 @PUNC14 we knew what you meant ;D #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:41
@AgencyNurse @PUNCJack @WeNurses #WeNurses perhaps yes, but such a shame we have to have this debate. Need to make… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065706774504849413
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:42
@PUNCadp @WeNurses #WeNurses good point. Maybe supervision and mentoring has a role in this?
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:42
RT @Sectioned_: @AgencyNurse #WeNurses Yes, research by @chrispaps shows that it is staff (not patients) who influence levels of conflict &…
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:44
Thank you for sharing these resources really useful #WeNurses
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:44
RT @Sectioned_: @AgencyNurse Here are a couple of links to that research: > http://www.mentalhealthy.co.uk/news/1551-new-insight-into-acute-inpatient-psychiatric-care.html > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221769633_The_antecedents_of_violence_and_aggression_within_psychiatric_in-patient_setting #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:45
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 4 What do you think a "zero tolerance" approach to violence against healthcare staff should look like? #WeNurses…
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:45
RT @livinginhope: Thank you for sharing these resources really useful #WeNurses https://twitter.com/sectioned_/status/1065705893629710336
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:45
@WeNurses Is it a criminal offence to assault #NHS staff??? #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:46
@Louise90999815 @WeNurses surely it's a criminal offence to assault anyone !! #WeNurses ... @wecops ??
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:47
@WeNurses #WeNurses we would need to be clear how we define aggression. Physical acts pretty clear - but verbal behaviour more difficult?
@livinginhope
22 November 2018 20:47
RT @jadvnursing: @MaryDunningTU @WeNurses #WeNurses have a look at the research studies in our virtual issue out today. Increasing amount o…
@MaryDunningTU
22 November 2018 20:47
@AgencyNurse @WeNurses Reflection and constructive feedback is useful to capture what one did right, what didn't work and why #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:47
RT @AgencyNurse: @Louise90999815 @WeNurses surely it's a criminal offence to assault anyone !! #WeNurses ... @wecops ??
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:48
@Louise90999815 @WeNurses #WeNurses assault is a crime whoever the victim is.
@HazelPowell11
22 November 2018 20:48
RT @Sectioned_: @AgencyNurse Here are a couple of links to that research: > http://www.mentalhealthy.co.uk/news/1551-new-insight-into-acute-inpatient-psychiatric-care.html > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221769633_The_antecedents_of_violence_and_aggression_within_psychiatric_in-patient_setting #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:48
RT @jadvnursing: @Louise90999815 @WeNurses #WeNurses assault is a crime whoever the victim is.
@iAmRPeras
22 November 2018 20:48
RT @jadvnursing: @WeNurses #WeNurses we would need to be clear how we define aggression. Physical acts pretty clear - but verbal behaviour…
@iAmRPeras
22 November 2018 20:48
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 4 What do you think a "zero tolerance" approach to violence against healthcare staff should look like? #WeNurses…
@PUNCadp
22 November 2018 20:48
@PUNC14 @WeNurses We were trained in restraint but sometimes we're just not quick enough!! #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:49
@jadvnursing @WeNurses But how many nurses press charges if patient is ill or disorientated??? #wenurses
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:49
Interesting question #WeNurses ... could they even be arrested if they are ill??
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:50
@napernurse @jadvnursing @WeNurses interesting - this wouldn't be the case in the UK .. not many guns here #WeNurses
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:52
@AgencyNurse @napernurse @WeNurses #Wenurses - certainly puts our issues in the U.K. into perspective
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:52
Great point - what about verbal aggression ?? is that even being recorded ?? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:52
RT @jadvnursing: @Louise90999815 @WeNurses #WeNurses assault is a crime whoever the victim is.
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:52
RT @PUNCadp: @PUNC14 @WeNurses We were trained in restraint but sometimes we're just not quick enough!! #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:53
Thanks Harriet #wenurses https://twitter.com/hnbarker/status/1065708718162173952
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:53
RT @Louise90999815: @jadvnursing @WeNurses But how many nurses press charges if patient is ill or disorientated??? #wenurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:53
Anywhere else do this ?? #WeNurses
@Sectioned_
22 November 2018 20:55
@WeNurses #WeNurses When thinking about a “zero tolerance” approach to assaults on NHS staff and prosecuting pati… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1065710258126036998
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:55
RT @Sectioned_: @WeNurses #WeNurses When thinking about a “zero tolerance” approach to assaults on NHS staff and prosecuting patients/vis…
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:55
RT @Sectioned_: @WeNurses #WeNurses When thinking about a “zero tolerance” approach to assaults on NHS staff and prosecuting patients/vis…
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:55
RT @WeNurses: QUESTION 4 What do you think a "zero tolerance" approach to violence against healthcare staff should look like? #WeNurses…
@AgencyNurse
22 November 2018 20:56
@Sectioned_ @WeNurses thank you - this is useful stuff #wenurses We have to remember that no two incidents are the same
@jadvnursing
22 November 2018 20:56
RT @Sectioned_: @WeNurses #WeNurses When thinking about a “zero tolerance” approach to assaults on NHS staff and prosecuting patients/vis…
@PUNC14
22 November 2018 20:58
@PUNCJack @WeNurses Hard to tell in my specialty the impact this has but you would see it in notes, a yellow card warning #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:58
Two minutes left ... any final points ?? #WeNurses
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 20:59
What do people think ?? #WeNurses
@Louise90999815
22 November 2018 20:59
@WeNurses @AngieLock50 @jadvnursing Equally dangerous if out on the community and get harassed in or out of the home! #WeNurses ??
@WeNurses
22 November 2018 21:00
Thats all for tonight everyone - thank you all for your tweets and thoughts #WeNurses https://t.co/f1ZdEjAggG




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